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Galothean
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 Posted - 01/24/2004 : 17:52:38
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| The ruling house of Menzoberranzan. The favourites of Lloth. They are truly interesting characters. We have Arch mage Gromph Baenre, stuck in the evil drow city. His daughter Liriel Baenre also a mage but, I would say, not evil. Berg’inyon Baenre, who is a fighter and Jaraxle, unknown son of House Baenre. And Uriel (I think) who is the matron mother. What is the story of this great family? |
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MasterAO
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 Posted - 01/25/2004 : 02:24:30
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Triel is the name of the Matron Mother. Are you only familiar with them from the novels, or have you read a sourcebook about them? The family Baenre dates back to the founding of Menzoberranzan, although they are not the oldest family. Using deceit and force typical to the drow, they managed to become the first house.
Im a bit loath to tell more, as much of this is not player knowledge in the Realms  . |
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Baron VonSchiffman
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Posted - 02/01/2004 : 09:10:32
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| Liriel is not evil at all. Not after she found love with a Rashemi berserker named Fyodor. Who died tragically but lets not split hairs. I think you left out Quenthel Baenre mistress of Arach-Tinilith. I'm only familiar with the novels and video games so i might be wrong. |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/01/2004 : 11:58:20
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| Liriel and Fyodor are both still alive and well. Atleast they were at the start and end of Windwalker. And Liriel isn't the same person as Triel, they are both daughters of old Baenre, but very different in views of life. |
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Baron VonSchiffman
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 01:05:41
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Windwalker spoiler
Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Pardon me Master Ao but Fyodor is dead at least in the corporeal sense. His spirit will remain with Liriel until the time she goes to meet Kelemevor.
And as for Liriel being Triel's sister you are mistaken. She's the daughter of Gromph Baenre and the daughter of a lesser drow noble. It is an oddity among the drow for Liriel to have her father's surname but when you're archmage of Menzoberranzan you can do almost whatever you want. |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:14:41
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Read Schiffman's spoiler for Windwalker.
That still makes Liriel a daughter of Old Baenre, but not in the mother/daughter sense, just that she is a relative. Liriel showed such great promise as a cleric (and wizard), that she could have become as powerful as Old Baenre. You are correct that Liriel and Triel aren't sisters, they are only relatives. |
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hamishspence
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 16:04:46
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Old Baenre: Matron Yvonnal Baenre: over 2000 years old and probably one of the oldest mortal Faerunians. Course, now shes dead.
Wonder what her stats would be? Probably 20th level cleric, 9th level Arachne, and maybe a few levels of, say, hierophant, divine disciple, or what. 10th level arachnes and 5th level disciples are outsiders (probably not her) and 9th level get access to Zin-carla (definitely her) See Faiths and Pantheons, and RA Salvatores Exile for details. |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 18:10:17
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Probably, although I doubt that her stats would be needed by anyone. She wasn't the one who had to fight her own battles, exactly. 
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Baron VonSchiffman
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 08:52:18
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| I've been reading The War of the Spider Queen series and the aftermath of Starlight and Shadows hasn'y been mentioned at all.(spoiler alert) Especially since Gromph summoned the most prominent mages in Menzoberranzan to stage a coup of some sort against the matriarchy. What are your thoughts Master Ao? |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 13:41:48
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I haven't read any of the War of the Spider Queen novels yet (I have three standing in my bookshelf), so I cannot say much about them yet. Im not that keen on reading trilogies or series in which not all novels have been released.
I just hope that they will not change the entirety of Underdark in them. |
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Baron VonSchiffman
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 07:35:51
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| I don't think that the Underdark is going to change much. Only Ched Nasad and Menzoberranzan have been mentioned thus far. But I think that the whole drow world is about to come crashing down. |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:07:45
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Which is why I wish that the changes are not too profound. The drow is a large Underdark factor, and almost all drow cities are ruled by Lolth-followers. Remove those and you have a major change in the Underdark.
Now, I don't think that the WotSQ series will have that impact after it is is finished, so Im not going to be negative about the changes made until that point. |
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muhcashin
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:17:46
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I've read the first three so far, and I think that the Underdark will change considerably, especially in the areas North of Faerun. Whether changes will be for the good, it's too earlier to tell, we've still got 3 books to go. BTW, is Extinction out?
Forgotten Realms campaign setting has been changed before by series of Novel (ahem Time of Troubles), and I say that was for the worse. Bane was cool. He's back, so I'm happy. But Cyric? What a freaking idiot. He was so much better as a mortal. More interesting. |
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:29:25
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I don't have much against RSE (Realm-shattering events) per see, and I don't mind that the WotSQ series do changes to the Underdark. I just hope that they will not do too many permanent changes.
According to Amazon.com, Extinction was released January 28. |
Master AO
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Baron VonSchiffman
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 08:49:23
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| Have faith Master Ao. The drow will always be heartless bastards. |
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Azalnubizar
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 10:39:35
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Yes - have faith...
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"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us."
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MasterAO
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 19:57:11
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| I know, it's just that it would be nice to know the outcome before that event occured in my campaigns, instead of after it has happened. I know that it will never happen, but I felt for a little whining . |
Master AO
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